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Scouse Elvis


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lunch = posh Dinner
Tea = poormans Dinner

Does that explain it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm
When I was small boy it was
Breakfast
Morning snack at the tuck shop
School Dinner
Smuggled 'Refreshers' in class in the afternoon.
Sweets on the way home
Lemon curd on toast before Dinner
Dinner with pudding
Packet of Fig rolls taken to bed.

I wasn't the fat kid at school either, should have been.

Now its
Skip breakfast,
possible lunch
Snakc on the way home
Glass of wine
Toy with my dinner
Go to bed with some doughnuts, left over from yesterday.

Ah life.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Breakfast is the meal you eat first; then elevenses,brunch,lunch,tea,dinner then supper.


I daresay we've left out second breakfast!

Oh, and BTW, I just figured out what one of the Arctic Monkeys' songs means: Mardy Bum means--equivalenty, in 'Merkin'--moody butt. Now I have a new nickname for my wife that she will never decipher.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elvis, maybe you can explain this to me. RSteve (my friend in Brum) told me that using "lunch" was considered posh or trying to be posh, and he said the same about another Americanism, sofa I think. What I don't get is why anyone would see Americanisms as posh. It doesn't make sense to me at all. I thought we were all seen as unmannered brutes. What gives?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lunch-lunchen

so tea, is afternoon tea, what only the rich could afford, so why do people from more working class backgrounds use it.

it's not a question about class, just a question about language.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought we got 'sofa' from our time as Empire from one of the arabic speaking peoples.
Settees have been around Europe longer and have posh connotations because they were once purley the luxuary of the very rich.
Sofas differed from settees in that they where much more plushly stuffed and the sort of thing you spread out on a relax in, whereas the settee would have been a more rigid and delicate thing.
Using Americanisms deliberately - like couch - is a kind of *status* thing for chavs, and kids etc...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janet, I don't know why it is so, Lady in the Straw Hat is right, so I don't know why the evening meal is called 'Tea' where I come from it just is.
Lunch and Dinner (for midday meal and evening meal) are posh, whereas dinner and tea (for midday meal and evening meal) are common. It depends who I'm talking to as to what time I have my dinner, when I'm with you guys dinner is at noon, when I'm with important people dinner is at 6pm Tongue
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alas my meal times are regulated by the cook which is such a bore. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nearly tea time now!


Swine - Mard Arse is a VERY northern thing. Not really about being moody, more about calling someone a coward or easily scared. Example - someone jumps at a spider running out from under the TV (regular sized spider of the house variety - TV of your own size choice) and you laugh at them and shout 'Mard Arse!'. Heeheeeheheee!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, forgive me for being regionally challenged...but is Sheffield considered "the North"? It looks more middle-ish to me, but what do I know?

In the song in question, the singer is chastisng his girl for being argumentative and says she's "got the face on." And I did find an online reference saying "mardy" is similar to "moody". So there you have my logic.

The REAL reason I give a damn about this at all is because my name is Marty, which sounds an awful lot like "mardy" so I was hoping the song would say something about me. But instead it says much more about my wife.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to divert this in anyway, but i happen to know someone related to the mardy bum in question.

mardy bum being someone in a strop, or being moody in a childish way, which is also having a face on.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<First off, forgive me for being regionally challenged...but is Sheffield considered "the North"? It looks more middle-ish to me, but what do I know? >

probably because you are confusing the issue of thinking what you are looking at on the map is one country!! which is the UK, while Sheffield is middling of the UK it is in Northern England. Confused

Just past Carlisle there is the border between England & Scotland, although Scotland is the northern part of the UK.

It is a different Country. Rolling Eyes Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So everything north of, say, Birmingham is "the North"? And the south of Scotland is north of the north of England...and... "Off with his head!" Really, though, this isn't any more confusing than when Americans refer to Ohio as being in the Midwest.

So, Ms Straw Hat, give up the rest of the tale! Details, woman!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swineherd wrote:
So everything north of, say, Birmingham is "the North"? And the south of Scotland is north of the north of England...and... "Off with his head!" Really, though, this isn't any more confusing than when Americans refer to Ohio as being in the Midwest.

So, Ms Straw Hat, give up the rest of the tale! Details, woman!


As the crow flies the south of anywhere is always south of anywhere north, even though they are bordering countries. Or to put it another way the north of the USA is south of southern Canada. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, where I live is North of Canada, but that's something of a geographic anomaly.

I wonder if this thread will lead to an explanation of the fabled New Geordie Geography about which so much has been hinted but so little revealed.

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